Marie Kondo addresses her stance on books that don’t “spark joy.”

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Marie Kondo talks with The New York Times Katie Rosman about her stance on books that don’t “spark joy.”

“The point of the KonMari method is to figure out your sense of value,” she said. “What do you hold most important? So if you’re angered, if your reaction is anger that you have to let go of books, then that’s great, that means for you, books are invaluable.”

Watch the full program.